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Jesus replied, "You are in error because you do not know the Scriptures or the power of God."
- Matthew 22:29

Isaiah 55:11
So shall My word be that goes forth from My mouth; It shall not return to Me void, But it shall accomplish what I please, And it shall prosper in the thing for which I sent it
Gen 1:3
Then God said, “Let there be light”; and there was light
Matthew 26:26
And as they were eating, Jesus took bread, blessed and broke it, and gave it to the disciples and said, “Take, eat; this is My body."
Malachi 1:11
My name will be great among the nations, from the rising to the setting of the sun. In every place incense and pure offerings will be brought to my name, because my name will be great among the nations," says the LORD Almighty.
John 20:23
If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven them; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained.
James 5:16
Therefore confess your sins to each other and pray for each other so that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous man is powerful and effective.
James 2:14
What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?
Luke 20:38
For He is not the God of the dead but of the living, for all live to Him.
Rev 21:27
Nothing impure will ever enter it, nor will anyone who does what is shameful or deceitful, but only those whose names are written in the Lamb's book of life.
1 Cor 3:15
If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.
Psalm 51:5
Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity, and in sin my mother conceived me.
John 3:5
Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
Titus 3:5
Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
1 Timothy 3:15
but if I am delayed, I write so that you may know how you ought to conduct yourself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth.
Acts 22:16
And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.

Muslims More Numerous than Catholics: Vatican

MUSLIMS MORE NUMEROUS THAN CATHOLICS. That was the headline in large red capital letters on the Drudge Report this morning. While that may be a shock to Matt Drudge, many Catholics and non-Catholics, I am not suprised. I read a number of demographics blogs and have been following the fluctuations and forecasts of the world's populations and subpopulations for sometime.

If total fertility rate (TFR) is a new term for you, then you have some remedial catching up to do. You might start with the 2005 Pew transcriptThe Coming Religious Wars? Demographics and Conflict in Islam and Christianity. Then follow Pew with Mark Steyn's classic It's the Demography, Stupid: The real reason the West is in danger of extinction. I would follow Mark Steyn with the Demography Matters The demographics of bad politics and Phillip Longman's The Global Baby Bust. You might finish with Will the Rapid Growth of Islam Continue?.

Also, if you have not seen the trailer for Demographic Winter, now would be a good time.

"There is no 'population bomb.' There never was." - Mark Steyn

Some facts to keep in mind when discussing the demographics of Islam, Catholicism, and Christianity.


80% of Muslims are NOT Arabic nor do they understand Arabic.

The most populated Muslim countries are outside the Middle East: Indonesia, Pakistan, Bangladesh and Nigeria.

Over 80 percent of the growth in Islam is due to high fertility rather than conversions.

Muslim population growth is declining.


The global percentage of Christians has been about 33 percent for the last one hundred years

In the 1960s the proportion of Christians in Africa surpassed that of Muslims for the first time in history.

Today the proportion of Christians in Africa is approaching one-half.

43% of women getting an abortion in the U.S. identify as Protestant.


Catholicism is not in worldwide decline.

Catholicism is growing worldwide at a rate of about 17 million per year.

27% of women getting an abortion in the U.S. identify as Catholic

    And God blessed Noah and his sons and said to them, "Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth."
    Genesis 9:1


I've been scouring Google's Blogsearch seeking any decent discussions of the Vatican announcement. Most blogs seem to be just posting the news release verbatim without any comments or feelings about events. But, there are a few blogs were people are actually commenting on the annoncement and their comments are proving enlightening. Atheists would like to see fewer people engaged in religion. Agnostics worry about any fundamentalist oppressing them and forcing behaviors based on religion. A large number of people think the growth in Islam is from aggresive conversion (convert or die) versus birth rate, which is the actual source. And, a number of people think that only Europe is suffering from declining birth rates and are oblivious to the global decline in fertility rates, aka Demographic Winter.

Among the blogosphere were interesting discussions at:

World Have Your Say, a British blog supporting an NPR-like radio show.

iwka.onething, really interesting post with map and discussion of current demographics and the mythological Eurabia.

TitusOneNine, an well known and respected Anglican blog in the United States.

Mujahideen Ryder, an Islamic blog where triumphalism seems to be the flavor of the day.

M@ Henslee..., a student Baptist pastor in Little Rock with the opinion that both Catholics and Muslims are two false religions duking it out on their way to hell.

Man in a Shed, where Gordon sees the announcement as none too subtle spin and part of a conspiracy to kill the Church of England. ABC Rowan Willams is a pawn in the evil Catholic plot.

Street Knowledge, posted a color map depicting Islam and seems to have a grasp on the real demographic trends. Lots of potential here, leave them some comments.

Source: Muslims More Numerous than Catholics: Vatican

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Blogger Convenor said...

Could you give a little public exposure to two new blogs:

God bless you!

3:42 PM  
Blogger witsandnuts said...

Thanks for you comment in my LJ account. I put a link to this blog in my Multiply

God bless!

1:24 PM  
Blogger Man in a Shed said...

Thanks for the link ( I think ). Small note the blog is an Anonymous blog. I suspect the reference to Gordon is part of the somewhat critical view of Gordon Brown that my blog takes.

My point is that in UK law the British Prime Minster recommends to the monarch who will be head of the Church of England.

This was last done by Tony Blair who recommended Rowan Williams (oddly a man who had considerably different view to the Catholic view Mr Blair has adopted since his conversion to Roman Catholicism after stepping down as Prime Minster, but also a man unlikely to hold the Church of England and the wider Anglican communion together or to see them prosper - spot the conflict of interest ).

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